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13 May 2024 16:53:43
An interesting name that maybe the leafs could consider for an assistant coach might be dale hunter the guy has been in London for awhile now and they seem to always have a great team
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13 May 2024 18:53:46
I'm really not a fan of junior coaches a lot of the time.
Some teams always have a strong roster, and it's hard to say what it is they're doing right as opposed to just the great roster they have at their disposal.
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13 May 2024 21:33:01
I know he coached briefly in the NHL in the past, but I am hoping for an experienced coach who has had more success than making the 2nd round once. We went rookie GM and rookie coach and it was a mistake. I didn't like it then and I don't want a repeat of the same mistake. Gallant is still my choice unless Sullivan becomes available.
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13 May 2024 22:31:31
True was just a thought I think to me I’m more curious as to who the assistants are than I am the head coach.
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13 May 2024 22:34:19
I seen gallant was not interviewing for the job as far as the media has reported it’s a two horse race unless they don’t like either of the guys they interviewed then who knows.
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13 May 2024 23:11:54
I think the Hunters have a pretty good thing going in London.
I believe Dale coached the Caps for a year or two, before Barry Trotz came in and won a cup. Dale went back to junior because and I quote " teenagers are easier to coach than millionaires "
Also Mark was pretty pissed ( and rightfully so) when he lost out on the Leafs GM job to some guy, I think his name was Kyle something.
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13 May 2024 23:35:01
Goat. That's too bad. Gallant typically has about a 2 year shelf life, but he gets quick results and that is what this team needs. No more coaching a nd GM experiments. Don't have time for that as Matthews etc are in their prime.
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13 May 2024 14:07:09
Targeting Marner in trades I get. marner will not waive to go to a dry state, the dude likes to party. The incentive would have to be like captaincy to get Marner to waive to go to Utah. Even that might not do it.
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13 May 2024 16:46:32
I think you might be taking this forum a bit to seriously if you’re posting and telling people their mock trades are not good.
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13 May 2024 12:07:19
As much as I'm happy the Rat got what he deserves, I think Bennett's actions are cowardly and despicable.
He should have definitely been suspended IMO. His cheap shots just reminded me again of that non hockey play take down of Knies last year's playoffs and again he goes unpunished.
Just dirty.
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13 May 2024 13:50:32
Bennett plays hard and to hurt. He has a real mean streak. No different than Marchand being dirty to hurt guys. I agree that Bennett should be suspended. Not saying I'm sorry to see Marchand get what he really did deserve imo.
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13 May 2024 16:48:27
You know what I think it looks great on Boston we watched them for the last decade do this crap and we already know the league won’t do anything about it honestly I hope Toronto adopts it.
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13 May 2024 19:06:59
I disagree on the Knies play. It wasn't great, bit dirty, but wasn't as bad as Leafs fans make it sound.
Rat got what he deserved. It's kind of the way hockey is going though. Don't fight, just spear guys in the groin, decapitate someone and run, etc.
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13 May 2024 19:30:05
I have to amend this. I guess I hadn't seen the bench angle.
Definitely a suspension, but also poetic justice.
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14 May 2024 13:43:49
I’m very frustrated with this. The NHL doesn’t make sense. A cross check to the face where the guy gets up and plays next game will get you a 6+ game suspension but punching guys in the face to an unsuspecting player, giving them a concussion gets nothing? Like wtf are we talking about here? We see what happens to people that have many concussions in their life and when they retire, their life is hell. If “player safety” is number 1 then make sense of this for me please. I don’t care that it was Marchand. Last year was Knies, Slavin ect. if there are no repercussions for his dirty play, why would he stop?
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14 May 2024 14:31:40
Clarky. I don't think anyone really disagrees with what you just posted. Marchand finally got pegged by a dirty play which is the poetic justice side of it. Marchand often slew foots while he checks guys. He uses his lack of height to get under them as he checks to cause as much damage as possible.
On that play, to me, Marchand dips a bit and tries to get right into Bennett's mid section and Bennett clocks him. Suspendable? Absolutely. This is what happens though when they also haven't suspended Marchand every time he throws a dirty hit. Marchand gets away with it and keeps doing it. So guys take it into their own hands. Marchand was going after Bennett's mid section and Bennett took him out. Marchand tried it on the wrong guy and paid for it.
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12 May 2024 23:07:15
Leafs will do nothing significant until marner and Tavares contracts are done. Long year ahead.
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13 May 2024 01:06:15
That's my exact feeling as well. Marner won't waive, JT will resign at a significantly lower price as 3C, Mitch will walk (or resign for more money), we'll see what happens in 25' off-season.
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13 May 2024 10:26:36
I think you guys are both wrong personally. Mitch will be gone by this summer. Upper management knows this needs to happen or fans will freak. I get he has a full NMC he could exercise. But the Leafs staff can also keep him in the press box until he changes his mind. But I personally believe that Mitch wants out just as bad as the fans want him out.
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13 May 2024 12:02:28
Clarky I really hope & even pray you're right, but I don't think Marner agrees to a trade.
Ferris has been known to let his NMC client's play out their final year and go into FA. And Marner's camp just comes across as a vengeful group, so I really don't expect them to agree to a deal.
But as I said, I really, really, really hope you're right.
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13 May 2024 12:46:11
I don’t think they will be that spiteful. Marner is in the prime of his career, they won’t waste it for a team that doesn’t want him. I think he will be on his way to a smaller hockey market with less media. And on the other hand, Tre has pressure not to waste another year of this team in their prime. It’s a must happen even if the Leafs lose the trade in “value”. Team needs cap space to get at least 1 but probably 2 solid RHD and still have money for goalie or forward depth.
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13 May 2024 13:47:47
I can't imagine they would press bx him and plummet his value if he won't except a trade. More likely they leak to the press he won't waive his no trade and put pressure on him that way to want to leave. I'm 60/ 40 atm that he gets traded.
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13 May 2024 14:09:59
If he doesn't agree to waive, or sign at 8 million let him rot on the 4th line and no pp time.
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13 May 2024 16:51:33
I think when it comes to marner seems like there’s too much push behind him being moved from all angles that even he wouldn’t want to stay I mean even his security team (didn’t know he had one) are going at fans I think it’s best for both parties to find a resolution Tavares is different because he has a young family.
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14 May 2024 03:13:53
@Goat when JT signed every hockey fan also knew that would age badly, and the window was his first 3-5 years. We can also assume, JT Willy remain captain and sign a much cheaper deal to stay here until retirement in a diminished role. Which I'm also fine with.
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12 May 2024 21:34:13
I mentioned a few days back a Keefe for Sullivan swap. I do think it may be possible.
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13 May 2024 01:06:40
I think Berube was already decided on personally. Better or worse.
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13 May 2024 10:27:20
Maybe they are waiting to see what happens with BrindAmour?
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13 May 2024 13:45:02
Waiting for Rod could mean they lose out on everyone they are interested in then he may stay in Carolina. Not sure Leafs brass want to take that chance. Who knows.
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11 May 2024 00:57:03
So what's everyone's thought after the pre conference today. don't really understand how shanahan still has a job. To me it was a lot of the same stuff and the media is kinda spinning what was said they said they are looking at everything which could mean no change is coming the only clarity we got was that woll will be the starter next year
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11 May 2024 01:32:31
Nothing will change. That's what I got from it.
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11 May 2024 10:14:55
That’s what I got too all they said was it was unacceptable that they lost again and they will look at everything idk what dirt shanny has on mlse but to see real change he needs to go.
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11 May 2024 18:04:28
@Goat I really don't think Mitch will waive his NMC. It's all well and good to say "press box him if he won't waive", but no coach or GM will want to lose Marner all year. He's still going to put up points as well, which means he will get a good contract. This is the retool 2 years. Let the money fall off and see what Tre can do.
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10 May 2024 05:57:04
Not sure if anyone else watched that bruins game, but seeing Pasta sauce up with Tkachuk, get beaten into oblivion, and still be angry about it enough, that he's going after the guy between refs, that means something.
When will we see that from any of these guys? Mo showed it when he got suspended, but it was accidental. His stick just rode up a bit.
Stamkos went at Mathews and he didn't want to fight.
Spezza was fighting to get these guys going.
Gio faught because it needed to happen.
I'm not sure a coach changes the culture. If he does, good on him.
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09 May 2024 21:04:12
So Keith Pelley is added as MLSE President & CEO.
How does adding another layer of management help the on-ice or on-field product?
Doesn’t this extra layer only isolate the top, slowing and altering the flow of information in a self-protection fashion.
Would Shanahan and Ujiuri be willing to convey truths to Pelley or would they “doctor” the message?
OR does Pelley realize this possibility and remove the superfluous level?
If so and Shanahan is relieved of his duties, will Pelley want his own hand-picked GM?
This is a likely possibility.
Otherwise things get worse because more people do less, waiting for direction from above from people who are too far removed from the pulse of the business.
JMO!
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10 May 2024 09:24:49
So I heard a theory yesterday and it was that Pelley is there because shanny is going to announce his resignation and so Pelley invited treliving to join so that treliving can answer any hockey related questions it all does seem weird so expect something to come
From it ideal situation would be shanny steps down and tree is promoted and we get a new coach and gm next year.
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09 May 2024 14:20:06
Keefe has been let go! Who is the new blood? Berube?
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09 May 2024 18:43:56
Berube. 100%.
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09 May 2024 20:34:44
They may hold off because what if Dubas wants to re-unite with Keefe and Sullivan becomes available. I joked a while back of a Keefe for Sullivan trade. He's been in Pitt for 8 years, so who knows. I wouldn't be against Sullivan as the Leafs coach.
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10 May 2024 00:15:31
What do you guys think about Julien?
I'm honestly not high on Berube.
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10 May 2024 02:58:17
@Tags I would personally prefer it to be Gallant, but I would take Berube over Julien.
Never been a fan of his.
Now, I have openly stated how much I dislike Paul Maurice as a coach, so take that with a grain of salt lol.
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10 May 2024 19:25:07
I honestly think the leafs are waiting on Berube to see if they can pry Rod out of Carolina. If Carolina gets swept for a 2nd straight year in the playoffs he could be available. If it's not Rod I put my money on Berube.
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09 May 2024 00:09:07
It sounds like Keefe may be fired tomorrow and I'm hearing Berube is at the top of the list.
Personally, I'm not very high on Berube, not for this team anyways.
Berube seems like someone who holds players accountable, but I don't think he's much for teaching, for developing a good game plan and in game adjustments.
If Quennville gets re-instated & shows he's learned from past mistakes I would love to hire him. Not sure if the Leafs would though.
Thoughts on Berube?
And possibly Quennville.
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09 May 2024 02:17:43
I was pretty open about wanting Gallant personally.
I'm good with Berube. I've had enough of "players coaches" in this city after Keefe.
Quennville is the best coach available (currently), if reinstated, but I can't imagine the Leafs specifically touching that one.
I'd keep an eye on the Cane and Rod. If they get swept, do they look for a change?
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09 May 2024 02:42:43
I would love Rod as well, but I can't see Carolina being that stupid to let him go over a few dollars.
I just hope Leafs hold off a bit before hiring someone, just to see who's actually becomes available.
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09 May 2024 12:18:24
I was just gonna post about what the leafs should do behind the bench and I’d fire everyone with keefe I’ve been looking at different coaches and who I think would fit with the leafs and here’s what I came up with
Head coach berube seems like a treliving guy tbh
Assistant don granato he has ties with Matthews in being head coach of the US national program and has coached a lot of top players in this league he would look after the forwards
Assistant jay leach was looking at this guy and he was almost named head coach of the bruins had a winning record in providence and helped develop guys like
Mcavoy he would be my choice for defence coach
This obviously is all hypothetical because we don’t know who’s gonna be back but they’re my picks I’d like rod but I don’t think Carolina let’s him go I guess we will see kinda crazy that shannys job looks to be safe hopefully they take away his ability to make calls on players.
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09 May 2024 13:11:13
All good candidates. I would be actually a little surprised if they keep Keefe. It hasn't worked.
Waiting to see who becomes available has pros and cons. Leafs wait and may get someone they would want who becomes available. On the other hand, they wait and every one gets taken up and no one becomes available and they end up with no one they want.
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09 May 2024 20:44:01
I liked Keefe’s final message that he didn’t get the job done. That’s being honest.
I don’t think he was a bad coach but I personally hated some of his systems.
For one he was a proponent of allowing the offence too much time and ice. Both hanging back and not aggressively forechecking and collapsing in the D-zone to clog up the middle were things that drove me crazy.
He is gone! More to follow? YES and the question is who will follow?
It will be interesting to watch and give us all the opportunity to guess and propose.
I took some time to listen to many Berube interviews. I thought he was a single focus coach on physicality but I see that this is not the case. He tries to employ a team game first, adapting the way the game is played to the skill set available.
He’s calm in front of the media, answering questions simply and without excitement. He doesn’t come off in an overly-cerebral fashion, demanding instead accountability and effort.
He is intense and demanding, something perhaps foreign to some Leaf players.
He may become, if hired, the impetus for Marner to waive his NMC. Marner’s pouting will not sit well with the Chief.
Maybe Berube will, in fact, become our next Chief and bring the Cup back to Toronto.
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09 May 2024 22:48:06
@Rsears did he want them to skate in circles instead of driving the net? I actually doubt that.
I think Keefe is routinely out coached, but I'm not sure any coach, ever, will get Willy/ Mitch to drive the net consistently.
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08 May 2024 14:16:20
I just get the feeling that Marner isn't going to waive.
Ferris has been known to let his client's play out the final year of their NMC contract and then hit FA.
There have been numerous red flags from Marner's first contract negotiations and I don't see them going away now. I see Marner hitting FA and trying to get a $13M deal on a 5 year term.
So much for bleeding Blue & White his whole life, lol.
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08 May 2024 14:29:52
Tags
Very possible. If he does, he won't be a very popular guy in Toronto unless he absolutely dominates in regular season and playoffs as well. Then the pressure goes on the Leafs for letting him walk.
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08 May 2024 16:21:11
RLF
Marner performing in the playoffs is a big IF, lol.
Apparently Leafs gave played 16 game 5, 6 & 7's in the Core Era, to which Marner has 5 assists (3 primary) . Just doesn't show up when the pressure is on!
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08 May 2024 16:32:38
I may be wrong on these stats. Feel free to double check the number's.
I would be curious to see how the rest of the Core did in Game's 5, 6 & 7, don't think many of them have done great though.
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08 May 2024 16:54:17
Tags. And that is the issue most of us have with Marner, he may put up points in the playoffs early, but does he "show up" in the do or die games. He just hasn't been there. The big thing I see is that he cannot/ will not go through traffic especially with the puck. He stays on the outside trying to find an open man with a pass through traffic and every team knows this now. He needs to try and drive through because no one is expecting it, but it doesn't seem like he sees that as the path. Willy and Matthews seem to have started figuring this out. Marner has not and the Leafs can't have 3 $11M+ forwards that are not big net drivers or playoff style guys. Need big moments from big stars with high paycheques.
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08 May 2024 17:15:54
@Tags I tend to agree. If I wad looking at this as Marner's agent, I would want to test UFA and see if I can start a bidding war.
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08 May 2024 17:19:18
RLF I really hope they can trade him. I honestly don't mind for what, as long as we get some picks & cap space and don't inherit a bad contract.
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08 May 2024 17:41:30
I see the marner situation a bit different I mean if you’re marner why not go elsewhere for a year then cash in I think the media and fan base has turned on him and I don’t really see why he would want to stay home town kid or not I mean same thing with JT you’re telling me he wouldn’t waive if he could go to another team that he thinks could be closer to a cup because if not then that tells you all you need to know about him yes leafs would have to retain on probably both guys but as long as they can get something decent back it’s better for the team in the long run.
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08 May 2024 18:18:05
@Goat as a dad of 3 kids (2 small kids) I can completely understand why JT wouldn't want to move just for a single year, to possibly relocate again. Especially from his hometown.
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08 May 2024 19:17:02
As bad as this sounds that’s your profession I think John understands that chances are he’s not
Back after next year either.
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08 May 2024 20:41:58
Maybe we give “Whiney” an ultimatum.
Agree to waive or sit for the season.
Hard-ball might work, IDK.
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08 May 2024 22:43:41
LL and Goat,
Maybe for those very reasons he takes a huge hometown discount to be L3C or L3LW.
If he scores 60+ points next year the Leafs might try to resign him.
I’d consider it.
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08 May 2024 22:54:57
@Goat I can't see them letting JT walk. He's going to know he can't ask for much money, and he's still good enough to make 3-4m.
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09 May 2024 19:14:15
@Rsears that's what I think is coming as well. JT takes a discount, and takes over at 3C that can step into the top 6 with injuries.
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